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019 Fulfilling Christmas Lists for Ten Military Families

Lawyers in the House with Montlick

Montlick is proud to partner with Warrior Alliance and KISS Wish to help military families have the holiday season they deserve. Hear from Warrior Alliance Director of Development Joey Tripp about the organization’s mission to assist military veterans in their transition back into civilian life.
Plus, don’t miss Veronica’s interview with Courtney Brown, an Army veteran, mom of two boys, and previous KISS Wish recipient, as she delves into her journey from uniform to civilian clothes.
And our extra special interview with our favorite guests to date: Maxwell (age 5) and Jackson (age 3) about their favorite part of KISS Wish.

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00:04 ANNOUNCER: Welcome to Lawyers in the House with Montlick. Wish you had a lawyer in the family? Now you do. Here’s your host, Veronica Waters.

VERONICA: ‘Tis the season to be jolly. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Lawyers in the House with Montlick. I’m your host, Veronica Waters.

00:25 VERONICA: We are jolly here in this month of December, and we’ve got a really special episode lined up for you today as we talk about something that’s happening right down the hallways with our sister station, Kiss 104.1. This is the time that we are celebrating KISS WISH. And to give us an introduction to KISS WISH and fill you in on all the joy thereof. We’ve got two special guests in the studio with us today.
00:51 VERONICA: We have Melinda Jeffress, who is director of media at Montlick Injury Attorneys, and Joey Tripp, who is the director of development at Warrior Alliance. And how does all this play together? Well, we are going to delve right into it. Joey, first tell us about the Warrior Alliance. What exactly is that organization?

JOEY: The Warrior Alliance is a nonprofit organization based here in Atlanta.

01:16 JOEY: Our mission is to basically help serve veterans, their family members and caregivers, transitioning from the military to civilian life, regardless of what point you served in the military or what the status of your military service is. We help veterans, their family members and caregivers. We call them warriors, find the resources that are available to them, get help access to programs and services that are here in the metro Atlanta area and throughout Georgia.
01:48 VERONICA: I want to get a little more into that because I think maybe a lot of us don’t understand what challenges veterans and their families might even have. I’m thinking, hey, these are the folks who served our country. Now they’re out of the service and we are laying out the red carpet for them in every way, shape, form and fashion.

JOEY: Right. And the challenges that veterans face are often the same challenges that we as everyday civilians face.

02:19 JOEY: But when you come in from a culture of the military back into civilian life, there is a huge culture shock.

VERONICA: Culture shock?

JOEY: Yes. And that is something that we help ease that transition, because whether you served in combat or if you did not, there is still that transition from having to move every four years if you’re in service or having to do… follow orders or things like that.

02:48 JOEY: We help those folks find the support and the community and the network that’s available to them. And oftentimes we’re addressing issues that are everyday issues, but we’re doing it in support of our veteran community.

VERONICA: What do you mean? What’s an everyday issue that might trip somebody up?

JOEY: So, isolation, you know, we come out of the COVID pandemic. We had high rates of isolation, we had housing crisis.

03:15 JOEY: One of the things that in the past year, we’ve helped through assistance from either finding resources such as financial assistance through our partner network we’ve helped acquire over $500,000 in just financial assistance alone for our veteran community. And, you know, serving those folks in areas of housing, recreation, healthcare, mental wellness, volunteerism, the whole gamut of the holistic network of services we provide that for all of the community, the veteran community at large.
03:52 VERONICA: Now, how long has Warrior Alliance been partnered with Montlick, Melinda?

MELINDA:  We’re going on our fourth year this year. And it’s a beautiful partnership that we’ve been able to establish with Warrior Alliance, as well as Kiss Radio. It’s such a beautiful program where corporations and the community are able to come together and help our veterans. So each year what we do on the radio station is we promote, hey, this is the KISS WISH.

04:22 MELINDA: We are going to make Christmas special for these veteran families. And where Warrior Alliance comes in is they help us identify those veteran families that are in need and they supply the list. They come together with a Christmas Wish list. And through our corporate monetary donations, in addition to the community actually purchasing these gifts as well, we are able to pull together a large amount of gifts that we’re able to then distribute to these families about a week prior to Christmas, and we fulfill their needs.
04:55 MELINDA: Some of them may say, hey, can you please do it when the kids are away at school, we don’t want them to see these presents. Or there are some other families that are like, we would love our children to understand what the community does for us as veterans, and we’d love for our kids to participate in this. So we really kind of meet the needs of the families, where they are and what they’re like, and it’s just a beautiful time to come together and show them our appreciation for what they’ve done to serve our country, and now we’re here to help and give back to them.
05:25 VERONICA: It’s got to feel like a very emotional thing too, to see just even from a distance. If I’m one of the people who’s a donor, which I have been in the past, or maybe helping wrap gifts or whatever, there’s something so special about knowing that you’re doing good. You feel like a little one of Santa’s little elves or something. But when you are there in person, Melinda and Joey, that interaction has got to be something special. Can somebody paint a picture for me?
05:56 JOEY: So I participate in most of the deliveries every year. And I can tell you that that moment when we’re knocking on the door and have all the gifts in hand and the families open the door and see us, it is a truly special moment because most of these families, the families that we select to nominate, are families that need a little extra help.
06:24 JOEY: And these families, you can see how grateful they are, how honored and touched they are because of the generous support from the community. Otherwise, some of these families would not have received Christmas. They would not have Christmas for the children. And it’s because of the support of Montlick and Kiss 104.1, your sister station, that we’re able to do this for these ten families every year.
06:58 JOEY: And, you know, it has become such a wonderful gift just seeing the community touch the lives of former service members, of veterans. And we’ve even had in the previous year, we had one family that was selected that their child was diagnosed with childhood cancer. And just that, being able to serve that family alone just meant the world to them because they were facing a hardship.
07:29 JOEY: They had just recently gotten diagnosed that year and we were able to bring them into the fold and open our arms and welcome or support them to this program.

VERONICA: I can’t imagine, though, how difficult it is to choose ten families. We’ve got more than 350,000 veterans, I think, just in metro Atlanta alone.

JOEY: A large population. Yes, we do.

VERONICA: Yeah. What’s one of the most meaningful memories that you have?

08:02 JOEY: The most meaningful memories from this program, and I’m not going to say names just to protect the privacy of the veteran family. But we had a veteran family, one of our families that we nominated, this person is a single father, father of two kids. Unfortunately, his wife committed suicide while serving in the military. And we nominated this family to receive the support.
08:33 JOEY: And that family, I cannot tell you how touched they were by the support because they had already had a tragic loss. They were new to the community. They actually moved to Atlanta from out of state, and they called the Warrior Alliance to get help and support for other issues. And our navigator identified them as, hey, I want them nominated.
09:05 JOEY: We added them to the nomination list and absolutely just the help that we were able to get through for them through this program and other services. That family is doing amazing now. And it is just because of programs like these and resources in support of the community that we’re able to do this.
09:29 JOEY: And just that to me was the most meaningful because I see an issue that we have in our military community with veteran suicide, we were able to serve a family that experienced that. And we were able to support them as they recover through this.

VERONICA: It is so frightening to me that this level of post-traumatic stress or isolation or whatever the issue might be that’s troubling a veteran is still so prevalent today.

10:01 VERONICA: And what I do know about the Warrior Alliance is that as long as it’s been in operation, which is how long now? Joey?

JOEY: So our program has been running since 2018.

VERONICA: 2018. I’ve heard veterans talk about the fact that nothing like this existed at the time they came out of the military and they didn’t know where to turn.

10:25 VERONICA: And imagine if you don’t have a place to turn, how much, unfortunately, how much more frightened and alone you feel if there’s not a friend on the block like the Warrior Alliance. And how amazing that even though you found this family after a tragedy, that you could actually make a difference. You can see the corner being turned there.

MELINDA: Yeah, and I think so, too.

10:54 MELINDA: We’ve talked about this in another show that we’ve helped with our veterans. So often the children are impacted greatly and sometimes they’re forgotten. And so a program like this, as Joey was saying, allows us to not only help the father, but it brings light to the children. And again, so often the children of our military, the little boys and girls, their lives are changing, too. They’re moving every four years. They’re having to come into new communities in new cities. And as Joey was saying, families are just moving in here.
11:25 MELINDA: They don’t know where to start. And so to do something like this for the children, to lift them up is just another way that we’re able to support not only the men and women that have served, but support the entire family.

VERONICA: How can people find the Warrior Alliance, Joey, if they need you or just want to help?

JOEY: So the best way to find us is online through our website, thewarrioralliance.org.

11:52 JOEY: If you’re a veteran or family member or caregiver needing help, we have a register button on the top of our page. And if you’d like to support us, you can donate online as well. But of course, we want you to support KISS WISH this year and to support the families that are being nominated this year.

VERONICA: All right, so put on your Santa hats and your little elfin jingle bells, because KISS WISH is here and it’s time for us all to become Santa’s Little Helpers.

12:21 VERONICA: Quick question, Joey. What’s top of your Christmas list this year?

JOEY: Oh, support veterans.

VERONICA: That’s a pretty good wish. And we will have that one for Santa every single year. Thank you so much for being in the house with us here, Joey Tripp from Warrior Alliance. Coming up, we are going to talk about Montlick’s commitment to veterans and its partnership with so many military organizations. What drives that? Melinda Jeffress from Montlick Injury Attorneys will fill us in. Stay with us on Lawyers in the House. We’ll be right back.

12:57 VERONICA: Hey, Hey, welcome back to Lawyers in the House with Montlick. I’m your host, Veronica Waters. Thanks so much to Joey with Warrior Alliance for joining us back in the house.
13:18 VERONICA: Melinda Jeffress, Montlick’s Media Director here, and we have talked, MJ, in the past about just how deep and how thorough Montlick’s commitment to servicemen and women to veterans has been through the decades. Tell me a little bit about some of the stuff that I see when I go to Montlick.com and I see all these many partnerships and what is actually driving that?

MELINDA: You know, Veronica, it’s within our DNA. It’s our culture. It’s who we are.

13:46 MELINDA: When David Montlick started the firm almost 40 years ago, his commitment was to provide excellent legal service, but also to be successful enough to give back to our community in a really meaningful way. And that’s why we’re here today, and that’s why you see so much on our website and our commitment to our veterans. When you step back and you look at the freedoms that we enjoy here in America, so often people forget about who’s behind that. It’s our servicemen and women who have dedicated their lives and committed to serving our country and protecting why we’re here today.
14:18 VERONICA: It is so true. I am curious, too, if… and I don’t know if I’m allowed to ask this, but I’m going to ask it anyway. Do you have, like, a favorite pet project when it comes to the veterans?

MELINDA: You know, I really don’t. I know it sounds so bad. I decided to answer no, no, no. You know, all of them are so wonderful and so amazing and all that we do… every time if we’re honoring a family or we’re giving away a vacation, so often what touches me is they’re all so humble.

14:48 MELINDA: All of them say, I’m not really deserving. All of the military families are deserving, which is true, but in a time of need. For example, what we’re here today doing with the Warrior alliance, it’s helping those veterans that are in need at this moment and at this time. And so I just love every program that we do because we’re helping people and we’re changing lives. We have this saying at Montlick where we say, when we come together as a community, we have the power to transform lives.
15:15 MELINDA: And that’s what we’re doing today, and that’s what we do with all of our community service efforts, but especially those that are honoring our military.

VERONICA: We’ve heard about Warrior Alliance. Can you thumbnail for me a little history of some of the other organizations that you work with?

MELINDA: Sure. Absolutely. We partner with Hope Atlanta to help homeless veterans. We also partner with Run for the Fallen 5K, which is honoring our fallen soldiers, who oftentimes the families are just like, we just don’t want our loved ones to be forgotten.

15:41 MELINDA: So it starts with not only the current serving military men and women that we honor and we help, but it’s the veterans, and then it’s helping the charities fund those programs that were started in honor of fallen soldier.

VERONICA: Make sure you check out Montlick on every social platform @Montlicklaw and get this episode and others where you find your favorite podcasts and at lawyersinthouse.com.

16:06 VERONICA: Coming up, we are going to meet one of our awesome veterans, hear her story, and find out really what it’s like coming back to civilian life and who helped her with that transition. That is straight ahead on Lawyers in the House. I’m Veronica Waters.

 

VERONICA: Hey. Hey.

16:36 VERONICA: Welcome back to Lawyers in the house with Montlick. I’m your host, Veronica Waters. We are talking about KISS WISH week this week. And as you’ve been hearing, KISS WISH is an amazing opportunity for all of us to bump up the support that we give to our returned servicemen and women over the years. Sometimes it’s a little difficult easing back into civilian life once you’ve been in uniform.
16:59 VERONICA: The Warrior Alliance, as we heard from Joey, helps with that transition, and Montlick steps in to team up with the Warrior Alliance to help ten military families have an amazing holiday season each and every year. Today we are talking to one of the amazing recipients of KISS WISH. And joining us here, Courtney Brown. Let’s say hello to Courtney. What’s going on? And she’s here with two amazing little guys. Are these former soldiers, too?
17:29 COURTNEY: No, but they are my bosses.

MAXWELL: Hello, everybody.

VERONICA: Courtney, thanks so much for being with us in the house. On Lawyers in The House, I’ve got to learn more about your life story. I could spend all day talking to you, I’m sure, but sort of give us a thumbnail of, like, where you were born and raised, what your life was like up through the military.

COURTNEY: So I was born and raised in Jonesboro, Arkansas, and my bonus dad is a 27-year military veteran.

17:58 COURTNEY: And so shortly after my 12th birthday, we began touring the world. So I graduated high school in Sicily, and then I went to college in Tampa. And shortly after I graduated from college, I went into the military myself. And that’s when I began kind of my own world tour where I was a captain in the army. And I got out and headed here to Atlanta. I’ve been here in Atlanta for about ten years now.

VERONICA: Was your bonus dad in the army as well, or another branch?

18:28 COURTNEY: He was in the army and the navy, both.

VERONICA: I didn’t even know that was possible.

COURTNEY:  Incredible human. Still, to this day, I’m in awe of that man.

VERONICA: That’s incredible. So was your inspiration to go into the army sort of born of that relationship?

COURTNEY: Yes and no. So, yes. 90% of who I am is because of just his leadership and who he is. And my brother, God rest his soul-

18:58 COURTNEY: He was 17 when he passed, but he was intent on going into the military as well. And I feel like there was a part of me that knew I needed to continue that, so not only continuing my dad’s legacy, but also for my brother. So those are kind of two big inspiration points in my life.

VERONICA: So you had a really heartfelt sort of mission of your own before you even put on your uniform?

COURTNEY: Absolutely. Yeah.

VERONICA: Tell me about life in the army.

19:27 VERONICA: What would you say you learned most about yourself as a captain there?

COURTNEY: To be unafraid. I was the youngest officer on a very high-level staff, which is unusual. I didn’t take a typical track through the military. My first boss actually just retired a few weeks ago, and he was over in Alabama, and I got to go to his retirement ceremony.

19:55 COURTNEY: But he really… Back then, I was upset because I was just like, why are they so hard on me? But I was the young girl that they… I briefed the generals and I briefed the commanders and the colonels and everything, but they prepared me for that. And so that intense level of questioning I was always prepared for.
20:19 COURTNEY: And so once I got out of the military, I was just completely unafraid to ask for what I needed or go into the community as a small business owner or things like that. Who do I need to talk to? What questions do I need to ask? And so really, there’s a sense of resilience and fearlessness that they instilled in me. At a very young age, 22, 23, I was leading 40 people to Afghanistan and back.

VERONICA: That’s amazing.

20:48 VERONICA: And can you tell me a little bit about what you did while you were in Afghanistan, what your specialty was?

COURTNEY: So first I was a contracts operations officer, and so I dealt a lot with governmental contracts while we were deployed. And then I also dealt with psychological operations. And that was really working with the community, getting to know the people that were around us to reduce civilian casualties and to increase a lot of the relationships that we had for those governmental contracts and stuff.

21:22 VERONICA: I love that it sounds so challenging and, like, such a rewarding and compassionate field to be in. Thank you so much for your service!

COURTNEY: Thank you.

VERONICA: So, Courtney, as I mentioned here on Lawyers in the House, we’ve been talking about KISS WISH this week, and a little elf told me that you and the family were KISS WISH winners.

COURTNEY: Yes.

VERONICA: What was that, actually? And can we… Look, I just want to take a minute. Who are these handsome young folks in the studio with us?

21:53 VERONICA: What’s your name?

MAXWELL: Bubba.

COURTNEY: What is your name? Tell her your name, silly child.

VERONICA: I got to start calling you Bubba for real now. Okay, Bubba. And what’s your name?

COURTNEY: Tell her your name.

MAXWELL: Maxwell.

COURTNEY: And what’s your name?

MAXWELL: I changed my mind.

VERONICA: You changed your mind? Okay.

COURTNEY: This is Maxwell and Jackson, and they got the sillies this morning.

JACKSON: I want to say my name.

COURTNEY: Okay, go ahead.

JACKSON: Mommy, my name is oh…

VERONICA: Okay, but that’s okay.

22:25 VERONICA: So we’ve got Maxwell and Jackson. And, Jackson, can you tell us how old you are?

JACKSON: I’m three.

VERONICA: And Maxwell, how old are you?

MAXWELL: 102,000. Wow. You don’t look a day over five years old.

VERONICA: It is so fantastic. How old were they when you became a KISS WISH winner?

COURTNEY: It was last year. Last year. So they were two and four.

22:53 VERONICA: So you’re one of the ten military families that Montlick and the Warrior Alliance teamed up to help. What was that like when you found out?

COURTNEY: Well, I had no idea. So I’m a forever student, and I really take advantage of the post 9/11 GI bill, like, to its fullest. If I told you, I probably have more degrees than a thermometer, but I’m still a student at this point. But I attend Atlanta Tech and our veterans advocate at…

23:24 COURTNEY: …Atlanta Tech works very closely with the Warrior Alliance. And I walked in the office one day and they were like, hey, we’re going to put you in for KISS WISH. And I was like, okay. No clue what it meant. And then they’re like, okay, well, we need a Christmas list. I’m like, what about… you know, they gave me a dollar amount. And I was like, I don’t even know how to tell somebody.
23:55 COURTNEY: It was a lot, and it was very significant. And for me, it was what they needed, you know, thinking, because I have so much, so much that I’m constantly doing to make sure that they’re well, but giving them something a little more. Giving them a little bit more than what they need. And so when I tell you KISS WISS loved on us…
24:23 COURTNEY: It was such an amazing experience. We went to Six Flags and we… just the whole process of even delivering the gifts was so beautiful. And they felt like just like they do now, they feel like superstars.

VERONICA: Superstars. Maxwell and Jackson, do you have, like, a favorite toy that you got?

JACKSON: My favorite toy is the Globe.

VERONICA: You guys have the globe?

JACKSON: My favorite toy is the Globe. The talking microscope.

24:52 VERONICA: You guys got the Art station?

MAXWELL: But my favorite thing is I don’t have no remote-control car. I just want to buy a remote-control car every single day. But no one even buys a remote-controlled car.

COURTNEY: You have, like, 15 remote….

VERONICA: He wants number 16. Number 16. Maybe he needs a different color, right?

COURTNEY: Probably.

VERONICA: It’s like you just need to add to the collection.

25:21 VERONICA: Listen, I totally get it. I only own one car. Sometimes I think I need two or three. Or three. Courtney, that gift was amazing. Everything that you got to do for the family via KISS WISH obviously wonderful. Can you tell me what that meant to you at the time?
25:48 COURTNEY: So last year, Nina and I kind of tapped into this a little bit when we first started talking about the KISS WISH experience. But I am what the VA labels as high functioning. And so on the outside, we present well, and because in the military, we are trained to handle a lot of responsibility and to make it look good.
26:22 COURTNEY: But you don’t know your triggers until you’re triggered. And so a lot of times we are just managing until we hit a trigger. And when you hit a trigger, it all falls down. And so there’s this constant state. It’s kind of a sub emotion of like just hoping that today’s the day that you don’t run into something that’s a trigger.
26:48 COURTNEY: And so the KISS WISH family Montlick and everybody that supported us, it’s the part of coming back to a community that’s willing to work with you through the darkness and that says, we are still here. We love you. Thank you for your service. What that means when I want to be home with my children, I want to love on my babies.
27:12 COURTNEY: I want to be present for them, how important that is for me, that people of the community are really coming together to show us thank you for your service. Not just words. That the KISS WISH gift was exactly that. It was thank-you for your service. Put into action.

VERONICA: Courtney, I have a hard time understanding the difficulties that our veterans face.

27:40 VERONICA: I am constantly baffled because I always say, as I was just mentioning to Joey a little while ago, I think that we are rolling out the red carpet here and trying to ease the transition as best as we can. And time and time again, I find out that’s not what’s going on. How hard was it coming back to civilian life?

COURTNEY: There is a condition….

28:03 COURTNEY: I need to look up the name, but scuba divers, when they go really deep into the ocean, they have to come up really slowly because of the way that our blood responds to being that deep. And if they come back too fast…

VERONICA: They get the bends.

COURTNEY: Okay, good. I’m glad that you know what I’m talking about. So it’s the same exact phenomena that we go into.

28:33 COURTNEY: We go into basic training. We go into basic training and we are integrated into that lifestyle, but there is no slow integration back into civilian life. It’s just like, boom, go home.

VERONICA: Right. Here’s your honorable discharge. Thank you so much. We loved you. Peace out,

COURTNEY: Right? And so there are resources out there, but we need basic training in reverse.

29:02 COURTNEY: And I mean that with everything in me that it needs to be that intense, like almost like a transition house.

VERONICA:  And so the Warrior Alliance is one of those organizations that has stepped in to sort of be the transition house, if you will, in a way to help folks like you come back home, ease the transition in so that we can actually show you that we are grateful for your service.

COURTNEY: Absolutely. The Warrior Alliance has so many resources I have not even come close to tapping into.

29:33 VERONICA: Thank you so much to Courtney Brown, our honorably discharged Army Captain. Thank you so much for your service. And thank you to Montlick and Warrior Alliance for stepping in to help ten military families this year. Coming up, the Montlick closing argument. Stay with us.
30:05 VERONICA: Thanks for being back in the house with us here on Lawyers in the House. I’m your host, Veronica Waters. And we’re back here with Melinda Jeffress and Joey Tripp. The director of development from the Warrior Alliance, an Atlanta-based organization that helps military members getting out of the service, is back in the house with us.
30:37 VERONICA: It is time for the Montlick closing argument. MJ, take it away.

MELINDA: Sure. Well, our closing argument today is all about how we as a community can come together and help our veterans. And the whole show has been about the Warrior Alliance and how we can help them. It’s been about KISS WISH and how we can help our community through there. I would like to encourage our listeners and our viewers to log on to Kiss104Fm.com and look at the list and consider donating some of these gifts so that we can help these families and these veteran families have a special holiday this season.

31:15 VERONICA: One of the cool things about the Warrior Alliance is the new home base that you guys have up at the Battery. What’s up with that, Joey?

JOEY: Yeah. So through the generous support of the Atlanta Braves, we actually moved to the Battery over a year ago and have been there ever since.

31:37 JOEY: We do programs and activations at our new offices. And it is a great place for veterans and their families and members and caregivers to go out and have fun, enjoy a baseball game and get support from the Warrior Alliance.

VERONICA: No other military focused organization has a spot like that with a major pro team. Am I right?

JOEY: Right.

32:03 JOEY: We are the only veteran service organization in the country that has our offices on property owned by a major league baseball team.

VERONICA: How special is that? And do you have like, dugout seats to every game?

JOEY: We keep trying to ask that, but it hasn’t happened yet.

VERONICA; You know what? Baby steps, Joe. Baby steps.

JOEY: Maybe next year, maybe next year.

MELINDA: Maybe it’ll be a Christmas wish.

VERONICA: That could be number two on your wishlist. Exactly.

32:33 VERONICA: It is fantabulous the Braves have stepped up and Montlick has stepped up to help the many veterans that we have in metro Atlanta and in Georgia. More than 750,000 in the state of Georgia. And it was so fabulous having Courtney in the house with us, hearing her story. And we know that trading in a military uniform for civilian clothing is never easy. It might be near impossible without the help of folks like those at the Warrior Alliance.
33:03 VERONICA: One more time. Tell folks where they can go to help you guys.

JOEY: You can go to the Warrioralliance.org or you can call us at telephone number 404-210-1776. And I encourage you to please reach out if you or someone else you know needs assistance, has served in the military or have a loved one in the military, please, please reach out to us

VERONICA: And, MJ, of course, our sister station Kiss104.1.Com.

33:30 VERONICA: They can go to the Kiss 104 FM websites any time of the day or night.

MELINDA: And donate and give, please.

VERONICA: Thank you so much for being with us here on Lawyers in the House. Joey Trip, Melinda Jeffress. I’m your host, Veronica Waters. It’s KISS WISH week!